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The result of the discussion was: Delete the Dissidents file procedurally (after a copy has been uploaded under a different name it should be speedy deleted rather than sent to FfD). ÷seresin 05:49, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Chinese execution of political dissidents.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Jrtayloriv (notify | contribs).
- Responding to complaints here and on the image's Talk page, I have found this image's filename to be both (at best) wildly inaccurate and potentially inflammatory. The person being executed in the foreground is not, in fact, a political dissident, but a convicted murderer, according to this article.
- Since the image is still valuable in the context of the articles in which it appears, I have uploaded a new copy of the image to the more neutrally-named File:Execution in China.jpg and used it to replace both appearances of the previous image in the Encyclopedia, at Human rights in the People's Republic of China and Capital punishment in the People's Republic of China.
- This fair-use image is now not only inaccurately named, but redundant and orphaned as well, and should be deleted. --Dynaflow babble 00:37, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - untruthful image title, the woman was a double murderer. (If the government had executed her after her first conviction for murder, her second victim would probably still be alive today.) There is a second copy of this image on Wikipedia.--Toddy1 (talk) 21:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete however - Since when was the Chinese government considered a Reliable Source? They have a state run media. Oh... and by the way the article linked to by Dynaflow is off a pornography website, sankakucomplex. The link to the Laogai Research Foundation is broken. The link to the site saying its 'drug dealers'... also broken. Someone says that the Laogai link text doesn't describe the person as a 'political dissident'. However, someone needs to get a lot more sources before they claim they know what this is. Oh and as for 'double murder'... the article you link to even says that the first murder was what in some US courts would be called self defense. What we have here is a paucity of facts. A good beginning would be to analyze the photos and try to figure out where it happened by looking at terrain and buildings. Reading the chinese text would also help. Looking at the uniforms could give the rank of the officers involved, and possibly reveal information about location or what kind of unit they were. Finall, looking on site:cn (chinese websites) in google might find some more details. Decora (talk) 06:11, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh! Is is bad for the state to run part of the media? It is very common in Western European countries for the state to run some of the TV channels.--Toddy1 (talk) 12:07, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Kept - Peripitus (Talk) 11:53, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Probably not PD-self. PD-Gov? No source. 78.55.96.90 (talk) 07:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I understand that Bzuk does own all the rights to the Avrocar information collected for a book he wrote and published. I am sure he will be along when somebody tells him about this nomination! MilborneOne (talk) 15:50, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Bzuk notified. MilborneOne (talk) 15:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- For the umpteenth time, I own the copyright to all the images in my books, including this one. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:14, 14 December 2009 (UTC).[reply]
- Move to commons it says it's not copyrighted? 76.66.192.35 (talk) 05:50, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Nehru signing Indian Constitution.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Shreshth91 (notify | contribs).
- Unsourced non-free picture showing important people signing an important document in an important event used in five distinct articles. The picture itself, though, is not important or notable, and the understanding of the (five) articles would not be compromised by not seeing it (i.e., it fails WP:NFCC#8). Damiens.rf 12:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Constituent assembly in session.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sumanch (notify | contribs).
- Unnecessary non-free image, copied from photo agency Getty, showing some men gathering during an important event, is not necessary for the understanding of the event. Damiens.rf 12:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Cabine Mission1946 Meeting.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sumanch (notify | contribs).
- Unnecessary non-free image showing some important men gathering during an important event, is not necessary for the understanding of the event. Damiens.rf 12:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Sant-Jarnail-Singh-Bhindranwale in the golden temple.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Legaleagle86 (notify | contribs).
- Non-free image copied from undisclosed "newspaper". Possible WP:NFCC#2 concerns. Damiens.rf 12:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The source seems to be obscure but that may not preclude the possibility of using the images under the fair use claim. The article where the image has been used discusses about a military operation conducted to flush out religious extremist, the article has a cause/reason for the operation section, this image clearly illustrates the militants brandishing SLRs and singe shot rifles along with considerable number of cartridges, the image centrally focuses on Bhidarwale one of the top militant leaders who had allegedly started the siege of the temple complex and had amassed a cache of weapons, the government used this reason to storm the temple with tanks and heavy machine guns, thus this image would provide a pictorial representation of the arming of the militia that has been one of the reasons of the hostilities. This image would qualify for fair use as the image resolution is low and this would not prevent the original copyright holder to commercially exploit the IP, further the image is essential to give readers a complete understanding of the reasons behind the operation, hence the article should be allowed to use under fair use clause. LegalEagle (talk) 15:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Being low-resolution and useful is not enough to justify a fair use claim, let alone compliance with WP:NFCC. --Damiens.rf 17:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The source seems to be obscure but that may not preclude the possibility of using the images under the fair use claim. The article where the image has been used discusses about a military operation conducted to flush out religious extremist, the article has a cause/reason for the operation section, this image clearly illustrates the militants brandishing SLRs and singe shot rifles along with considerable number of cartridges, the image centrally focuses on Bhidarwale one of the top militant leaders who had allegedly started the siege of the temple complex and had amassed a cache of weapons, the government used this reason to storm the temple with tanks and heavy machine guns, thus this image would provide a pictorial representation of the arming of the militia that has been one of the reasons of the hostilities. This image would qualify for fair use as the image resolution is low and this would not prevent the original copyright holder to commercially exploit the IP, further the image is essential to give readers a complete understanding of the reasons behind the operation, hence the article should be allowed to use under fair use clause. LegalEagle (talk) 15:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Armyinbluestar.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Legaleagle86 (notify | contribs).
- Image is said to be both PD and fair use. As non-free content, it's not necessary on the articles where it's being used. If really PD, some more evidence should be provided. Damiens.rf 12:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Whether the image in question is in PD is debatable, however about the fair use of the image in the article on Operation Blue Star, there is little uncertainty. The article is on a military operation to flush out militants from a place of worship. The image illustrates the defensive position taken up by military about 150 m from the main compound. At least a third of the article speaks directly on the nature and progress of the military operation, this image not only captures a moment of battle it also sheds light on the nature of such operation; earlier an image of a light tank used directly in the mission was put up in the article but due to problems relating to fair use issues it was deleted, if this image is also disallowed then the entire military overview section of the article would lose any pictorial depiction of the way or manner in which the operation was conducted. Thus to sum up there is little chance to get a non free equivalent of the image, the image does not in any way diminish the commercial value of the original image if any, finally the image highly improves the readers perspective on the army tactics used during the military operation which the article describes; hence the image should be allowed under fair use claim. LegalEagle (talk) 15:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Fortunately, all the military overview section of the article can be understood without the aid of incidental photographs (this one itself is highly unhelpful). --Damiens.rf 17:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- On what ground is the image tagged as highly unhelpful. LegalEagle (talk) 02:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Fortunately, all the military overview section of the article can be understood without the aid of incidental photographs (this one itself is highly unhelpful). --Damiens.rf 17:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Whether the image in question is in PD is debatable, however about the fair use of the image in the article on Operation Blue Star, there is little uncertainty. The article is on a military operation to flush out militants from a place of worship. The image illustrates the defensive position taken up by military about 150 m from the main compound. At least a third of the article speaks directly on the nature and progress of the military operation, this image not only captures a moment of battle it also sheds light on the nature of such operation; earlier an image of a light tank used directly in the mission was put up in the article but due to problems relating to fair use issues it was deleted, if this image is also disallowed then the entire military overview section of the article would lose any pictorial depiction of the way or manner in which the operation was conducted. Thus to sum up there is little chance to get a non free equivalent of the image, the image does not in any way diminish the commercial value of the original image if any, finally the image highly improves the readers perspective on the army tactics used during the military operation which the article describes; hence the image should be allowed under fair use claim. LegalEagle (talk) 15:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Decorative non-free image that is not necessary for the understanding of the Indian involvement in the Sri Lankan Civil War. Damiens.rf 12:37, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Sikh-showing-burned-property-burning-1984-delhi.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Roadahead (notify | contribs).
- Non-free image copied from Time magazine, showing destruction caused by an attack, is a nice illustration (kudos to Time) but still not necessary for the understanding of the article about this important event. The picture itself is not notable, and we have no fair use grounds to freely copy Time's work this way. Damiens.rf 12:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Sikh-property-burning-1984-delhi.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Roadahead (notify | contribs).
- Non-free image copied from Time magazine, showing destruction caused by an attack, is a nice illustration (kudos to Time) but still not necessary for the understanding of the article about this important event. The picture itself is not notable, and we have no fair use grounds to freely copy Time's work this way. Damiens.rf 12:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Sikhs camp shadara 1984 prashant 070411 outlook india.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Roadahead (notify | contribs).
- Unnecessary non-free image contains no information that is not already conveyed by the article's own text. Damiens.rf 12:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 13:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:SanssouciHistorischeMühle.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Cretanforever (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned. SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:03, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Second of three album covers uploaded for this single, only used in the article on the single. Excessive use of NFCC in violation of 3 and 8 Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 16:13, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Seresin (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 07:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Third of three single album covers, only used in the article on the single. Excessive use of NFCC in violation of 3 and 8 Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 16:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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